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u/b for aggro meta

Post  Jason-admin on Sat Dec 10, 2011 11:56 pm

i don't remember who said it but...basically in a "meta of tri color decks with bad manabase you should play a two color deck, and in a world of two color decks you should play mono color decks" while i disagree to some point, there is also no reason to run 3 colors if they don't provide an answer out of things....so with that i remodeled blue black as a test deck...

Creatures: 9
2 batterskull
1 wurmcoil engine
4 snapcaster mage
2 bloodline keeper


spells: 26
4 doom blade
1 life's finale
2 black sun zenith
4 mana leak
2 dissipate
4 think twice
3 forbidden alchemy
3 wring flesh
2 disperse

4 darkslick shores
4 drowed catacombs
3 ghost quarter
1 drown yard
7 swamps
6 island

SB:
4 delver of secrets
2 dissipate
2 negate
2 liliana of the veil
1 disperse
1 wurmcoil engine
2 curse of death's hold
1 rachet bomb

why its better than normal u/b:

1) has better tempo throughout the curve, mana leak -> liliana, keeper, batterskull, or wurmcoil is sweet. therefore punishes ppl for playing fast and loose vs. counter magic.

2) ability to fight rdw, u/r delver, uw delver, haunted humans. has early plays to interact consistently, with 9 removal spells cmc -2; 3 sweepers; 2 batterskulls, 2 keepers, 1 wurmcoil is nice vs. all aggro decks atm. Also disperse can be used on shrine from rdw or swords/destiny from haunted humans, and just kill spells vs. uw delver. also has 3 ghost quarter to fight moorland haunt which is pretty much HH best way to fight the deck.

3) SB can easily handle control/ramp type decks with 4 more counters and 4 delvers coming in for control and 2 counters + 2 liliana taking care of ramp.



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new control deck runs 5 snapcasters FTW!!!

Post  PurplePimple on Sun Dec 11, 2011 4:24 am

I know snapcaster is good and all but it's just impossible to run 5 lol
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Re: u/b for aggro meta

Post  Jason-admin on Sun Dec 11, 2011 12:07 pm

fixed hehe...i love me some snapcaster
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Re: u/b for aggro meta

Post  Taco on Sun Dec 11, 2011 2:40 pm

Hmm i like it looks like it could work a lot better for our meta. i wanted to switch to grixis but i just love ub sooo much heh. i think i oculd go with a few of these changes. no surgical extraction i nthe board? or did i miss that.

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Re: u/b for aggro meta

Post  Jason-admin on Wed Dec 14, 2011 1:16 am

made some changses to the ub deck and it was pretty cool...had some nice temp and control elements to it:

creatures: 9
3 bloodline keeper
3 consecrated sphinx
3 snapcaster mage

planeswalker: 2
2 liliana of the veil

spells: 23
2 batterskull
4 mana leak
3 think twice
3 forbidden alchemy
3 doom blade
2 dissipate
2 black sun zenith
2 violent wound
2 disperse

anyways, the deck did really good in play testing vs. my brother and marcus playing wolf run, rdw, u/r delver, esper control.
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updated ub

Post  Jason-admin on Thu Dec 15, 2011 2:49 am

Creatures: 10
4 snapcaster mage
3 bloodline keeper
3 consecrated sphinx

spells: 25
2 batterskull
4 mana leak
4 doom blade
3 think twice
3 forbidden alchemy
3 despise
2 black sun zenith
2 dissipate
2 disperse

lands:
4 drowned catacombs
4 darkslick shores
3 ghost quarter
1 drownyard
7 swamp
6 island

updated sb:
2 dissipate
2 drownyard
3 sorin's thrist
1 life's finale
1 disperse
1 jace, the memory adapt
2 surgical extraction
3 phantasmal image or 3 liliana

sb plan: i just know the cards i want in the match up...still working on #s
vs. Wolf run
out:
-2 batterskull
-2 black sun zenith
-2 disperse
in:
2 dissipate
3 liliana of the veil (or phantasmal image still not sure)
1 drownyard

vs. rdw or t-steel
out:
3 despise
2 dissipate

in:
3 sorin's thrist
1 disperse
1 life's finale (vs. steel)

vs. haunted humans
out:
-8 (?)
in:
3 sorin's thrist
2 phantsmal image
1 disperse
1 life's finale
1 tribute to hunger

so far these are the decks tested agaisnt...over all record is the following:

Haunted humans : 2 - 8 (test run 1)
the only games HH have won have been game 1 of both 5 game sets, lost all SB games

Wolf run ramp: 6-4 (test run 1)
6-2 (test run 2)
1-5 (test run 3)

all the games are really close, changed up my sb plan...hopefully works better now. after changing SB plan things went from bad to worse...maybe tried changing my game plan to much =/. the 2 games won on test day 2 where MB, so that appears to be fine...but SB is just a disaster. ima have to scrap this deck to the fnm pile if i can't make this match up better =/. Alright so, figured out the SB game, i took out two less cards, plus i found out drownyard is boss vs. wrr. test run #3 went 2-0 MD and 3-1 in SB games. that is a lot better. I'm do one more test run tomorrow before i can be totally happy, but i think it was a step in the right direction. Also, liliana is pretty good in the match up, sometimes i could get her to ulitmate just to kill off kessing wolf run/inkmoth nexus. i'll prolly test 3 phantsmal image next run over liliana and see which one does more work...plus i like the idea of image + bloodline keeper.

RDW: 1 - 7 (test day 1)
batterskull, sorin's thrist, keeper, sphinx, doom blade are all really good vs. this deck.

t-steel: 3-2 (test day 1)
again SB plan was off, changed it and will test tomorrow again.

control: 2-1 (test day 1)
was pretty easy, i can race them with keepers or just mill them out.

anyways think thats it.





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Re: u/b for aggro meta

Post  Nate on Thu Dec 15, 2011 4:34 pm

You don't need all of that vs HH. When I was playing against you, three cards went in: Tribute, Life's Finale, and Disperse. I know I took out one Think Twice. I think a Dissipate and maybe a Snappy? Anyway, those three cards did fine against you, so I wouldn't clog it up even more. Phantasmal Image doesn't help you at all, and Sorin's Thirst is okay....but pretty dead after a Sword or Destiny, and against Crusader and Hero.....so......the whole deck?
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Re: u/b for aggro meta

Post  Jason-admin on Thu Dec 15, 2011 6:15 pm

agree with you on the hh match up, basically i just wrote everything i want to test, I've been working on wrr alot today =/, i wrote about it under the long post, but basically i figured out the board i think, want another run through to make sure but last run through was u/b-5 and wrr - 1
so that is awesome. tonight when i get back from work i ma test the HH match up. unfortunate i don't have rdw to test against atm...cause if i can make those three match ups +50% wp i would play this deck so fast lol. also wouldn't mind testing u/w delver, but i have a feeling I'll SB a lot like i would vs. HH. for that match up.
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